The Cost of Living in France

February 14, 2010 by tony · Leave a Comment 

For the fifth year running, France has been voted the best place in the world to live by some magazines and journals. This is the reason why hundreds of thousands of educated and qualified people are moving to France to live or to retire.

Being the best does not mean it is perfect, there is a cost, not only in the cost of buying food and shelter, but adapting to a different culture and values.

Comparing income and expenses is simple, there are many websites offering this service such as the one I mention in this reply to a letter today ( http://www.worldsalaries.org/france.shtml ) – but if you need the adrenalin buzz of wheeling and dealing, building a business or developing new ideas – France may not be the most fertile place for your skills and imagination – in fact it is hard to succeed in business anywhere, but just nigh on impossible in France.

It all comes down to the unmeasurable “quality of life” – (if you know parameters I can use to quantify the quality of life I would like to learn)

Her is the mail I replied to a few minutes ago……

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Hi Tony,

I really enjoyed your post, I can’t remember the link, but you had written “Wisely, Paris built their Disneyland outside the city & they plan to keep it there.”. You articulated in that article exactly what my wife and I experienced in France at different times and exactly why we want to move there- in France life is not always judged in terms of money value.

I have one question in particular I’m trying to answer to help assuage some anxiety I have about this move:
I get the impressive that the French generally save a lot of their paycheck, I think I read somewhere that they saved 10%, which is about 11% more than what the average American saves. I also have the impression that food costs are rather high compared to the US, and rent seems a bit higher too (in Grenoble I’ve found 800 Euro seems to be the going rate for a one bedroom place). I have contradictory impressions; a lower salary, a higher cost of living, and yet higher savings rates than in the US.

The approximate salary I have found for my work is about 50K euro in Paris, and less in the provinces, although I’m not sure yet how much less.

Would this be enough to provide for myself and my wife, own a car, and still save money?

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Hi,

Income in France is low – average is about 22,000 euro a year – you can get a better idea about income from this site – http://www.worldsalaries.org/france.shtml

However a salary has a lot of social charges paid by the employer – it virtually doubles the cost of employing someone – for this you get the best health care in the world and excellent social services, education etc.

Housing is,expensive, the rent for Grenoble sounds about right, 800 euro a month for an apartment.

Cars are comparatively expensive, as is fuel, about 5 euro a gallon

Food I am told is more expensive than the USA, quality is good and the French are very careful shoppers.

The French are traditionally savers and the 10 percent or so of earnings does not surprise me.

You hit the nail on the head – it is impossible to put a value on the quality of life. With the sort of salary you have been offered you would be considered a wealthy person in France and could live comfortably, nut never luxuriously.

Hope this helps

Best wishes

Tony

A warm and Sunny Day in February

February 7, 2010 by tony · 1 Comment 

It was not a “Dark and Stormy Night” – but a bright and Sunny day today, so we went to the seaside to collect some seashells for my Mum.

Not much more to say really except “Wish You Were Here” and show some photos or Marseillan Beach and Marseillan Town (the beach is on the Mediterranean and the Port is slightly inland on a huge inland sea-lake.

Marseillan Beach in Languedoc

Marseillan Beach on the Mediterranean in Languedoc

Marseillan harbour Entrance

Marseillan harbour Entrance Languedoc France

Marseillan Port

Marseillan Port

Front of our Home at Villa Roquette

Front Entrance for Villa Roquette

We collected plenty of sea-shells, but could not get a stick-of-rock for my Mum.

A Guide to Renting in France

February 5, 2010 by tony · 1 Comment 

Although home ownership in France is increasing, most people live in rented accommodation. In major cities apartment living is the usual way of life.

The Internet is changing the way we do many things, until recently nearly all property rentals were arranged through an an agent immobilier – estate agent – this was their main business, but increasingly home rentals are advertised and sought online. Sales of private properties have increased, as has the number of agencies and the rental service has changed, although there are usually some specialist agencies offering rentals in large towns.

In France the tenant has very strong rights and is protected in many ways from exploitation by landlords. But this protection has caused problems for property owners. There are many cases where an owner has not received any rent for years yet cannot gain access to their own property. This has discouraged owners from renting and there are changes now planned to some laws which give fair rights to both owners and tenants.

At present an unfurnished property will be offered normally on a standard three year agreement, renewable for a further two three year periods with fixed maximums to the increase of rent to be paid. Furnished accommodation is often offered on a one year agreement and a registered student can obtain a nine month agreement.

Unless there are restrictions (as there are in central Paris) a furnished property can be rented as a seasonal or vacation property for any period less than six months. In central Paris only one year tenancy agreements can be offered, vacation rentals are not allowed, unless the proeprty is correctly registered and rated as a commercial property (very few are).

The tenant can cancel the rental agreement with three month notice. The owner can only request vacant possession at the end of the period of the lease if they require if for their own use or intend to sell the property. If the property is offered for sale the tenant has the first right of refusal to purchase. An owner cannot artificially inflate the selling price or use other devices to inconvenience the tenant without risking expensive penalties.

If you are looking for rented accommodation and use estate agents, you need to know that there is no central listing service so it is necessary to get information from all agencies in a region to find the available properties.

Many commercial owners do prefer to use agencies to assist in protecting them from “troublesome” tenants. Agents will charge normally at least one months rent commission for finding a suitable tenant and about the same each year for managing the rental. Howeern renting diret from an owner does not often reduce the rental demanded, although you mayb able to negotiate the deposit required.

Agencies will normally demand a further two months, sometimes three months, rent as a security deposit. This is only repaid at the end of the tenancy after a full inspection of the property has been completed.

When a tenancy has been agreed, a detailed inspection (an état des lieux) is made – ther are standard foms for this and it is usually ery detailed. The tenant should check carefully all entries, note any prior defects or damage to the property and take photographs where possible. Make an note of every hole, scratch, mark or stain. For a landlord to claim a property had to be completely repainted and to charge a huge professional rate for this to the departing tenant does happen.

Unfurnished property can be very basic, a kitchen may only have a basic sink, I have seen properties where the light bulbs are removed and not offered with the property. If you are taking over a property and view it when it is occupied, do not expect any of the fittings and fixtures to remain, or insist that those items which are with the property are listed and agreed.

Be sure you are aware of any other costs in renting. You will be liable for the taxe d’habitation each year. Interestingly it is the person who occupies the property on January the first of a year who is liable, so if you move in on January the 2nd you get 364 day free of this tax for your first year. The owner of the property is liable for the other local tax the taxe fonciere. Check what this is at the local Mairie.

There are other charges on a property, especially apartments. Management, maintenance and concierge charges may apply, be sure to get these confirmed and explained in writing before you sign an agreement. These charges do change annually, rarely downwards.

Services are usually paid by the tenant, most usually water gas and electricity, but also waste collection and other services may be added charges. Check carefully what is included in the rental.

Once you have found a place to rent and are comfortable with the agreement, you will have to prove your income. This is usually proof of at least the previous three months income, a contract of employment, bank statement details. Your disposable income should be at least three times the rent demanded. If there is any problem, you may also be asked to supply one or more guarantors who have assets or proven income to support your charges. Guarantors are almost certain to be demanded if you are self employed or an “artist”. Now you know why many famous artists lived in squalid garrets, they could not get a proper apartment.

In most cases you will need a French bank account as payment will usually be demanded by autonomic monthly payment.

However, first you have to find your property – this is anther article.

Address to the Haggis in French

January 25, 2010 by tony · Leave a Comment 

My thanks to Colin Monk of Havant Borough Council for this valuable translation he has just written to me ……

……Have a good evening. I organised one for 93 people on Saturday and we had friends from our French twin town with us. Just in case you do not have it, attached is an address to the haggis in French. I obtained it form the Chamonix Tourist Information people several years ago.

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“Discours à un Haggis”

Salut à ton honnête, à ton aimable face,
Toi qui parmi les puddings es le chef de ta race!
C’est à toi que revient la première des places
Dessus tripoux, panse et abats,
Tu mérite que tous vraiment te rendent grâces
Longues comme mon bras

Tu remplis le tranchoir qui sous ton poids se plaint.
Tes fesses font penser à la colline à la colline au loin
Ta pointe pourrait bien réparer le moulin
Si le besoin en advenait,
Tes pores cependant distillent comme un suint,
De l’ambre en chapelet

Regarde le rustaud essuyer son couteau,
Se mettre à découper avec aise et brio,
Creusant comme un fossé, en excisant la peau
Tendue et chaude de tes miches.
Dans quelle gloire alors tu suscites les oh!
Que ton fumet est riche!

Tous alors, coude à coude, approchent et s’entrepoussent,
Ils s’empiffrent comme s’ils avaient le diable aux trousses,
Jusqu’à ce que leurs ventres tendus et maousses,
Résonnent comme tambours en somme,
Et qu’un vieil échevin, d’éclater plein de frousse,
Entonne un Te Deum.

Y a-t-il être ici-bas aux moeurs dégénérées
Qui irait préférer ragoût ou fricassée,
Un olio propre aux porcs à donner la nausée,
Et qu’ils repousseraient, maussades,
Alors qu’ils peuvent ainsi faire franche lippée
De telle régalade?

Pauvre diable! Voyez-le devant son assiette
Comme un roseau fluet, tout l’air d’une mauviette,
Le poing guère plus gros qu’une pauvre noisette,
Tout flageollant sur ses guiboles.
Comment à l’ennemi peut-il faire sa fête,
Quand vient l’occasion folle?

Mais, nourri au haggis, voyez un peu le gars!
Il fait en s’avançant tout trembler sous son pas,
Dedans son poing robuste une épée plantez-moi,
Il la fera sitôt siffler,
Et toc, comme chardons, têtes, jambes et bras
Il va vite élaguer.

Vous, puissants, qui voulez le bonheur pour la masse
Et veillez que soit bien bon le menu qu’on lui fasse,
L’Ecosse, sachez-le, ne veut pas de lavasse
Qui dans le bol clapote et bruisse.
Mais si vous entendez rester en bonne grâce,
Donnez-lui du Haggis

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Beziers the Gateway to the South of France

December 30, 2009 by tony · 1 Comment 

Our home in the village of Montblanc is between the towns of Beziers and Pezenas. We are a few minutes from the Mediterranean, and are now the focus of a communications network of airports, motorways and high speed rail connection – yet we nestle in a calm and tranquil river valley which has not changed for centuries.

Millau Bridge
Image by tibchris via Flickr

I am busy sorting out the marketing for our Apartments and Bed and Breakfast accommodation in our home and
we are offering some great deals and discounts for 2010 in our January Sale.

These are exciting times, the new Motorway from Paris, the A75, a

rrives a few kilometers from us. You cross the highest viaduct in the world, often above the clouds, at Millau.

For centuries, over 800 years, after the crusade against the Cathars, Languedoc was a forgotten backwater, lost in time. The combination of sun, soil and steam-trains in the 19th century brought enormous wealth to this quiet paradise, but not many visitors. The Internet has changed this – in under 20 years, Languedoc has become not only the most desirable place to live in France, but the wines, once considered a vast lake of  cheap plonk, are now rated as some of the best in the world. The sun shines longer in Languedoc and communications are the best in France with the best road, rail and air connections in France.

 

A high-speed double-decker TGV train in Toulon
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At the center of Languedoc is the city of Beziers. An ancient Roman town which still has bullfights in the arena each year. Famous for the birthplace of the Canal du Midi, a World heritage Site and also for the massacre of thousands in the crusades against the Cathars in the 14th century.

Beziers is coming back to life with a new airport and new ideas to show the world how Languedoc became the cradle of Western Civilisation in the age of the courts of love of the troubadours.

A new website from Beziers begins to show the return of this cradle of enlightenment.

 

The Canal du Midi, approaching the round lock ...
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Montblanc Puzzle

December 30, 2009 by tony · Leave a Comment 

If you are finding it hard to concentrate on work after Christmas and the new year – then what you need is a holiday.

What better than coming to stay with us in our Apartments or Bed and Breakfast in Montblanc.

To relax you and get you in the mood, here is a jigsaw puzzle of a typical street in our village……

Slide the pieces with your mouse….

Or click on the picture or link below….

montblanc_typical_street_600 - online jigsaw puzzle - 35 piecesMontblanc street

Househunting in France

December 17, 2009 by tony · Leave a Comment 

I received a comment this morning which is prompting me to do some worK.

A reader sent me a question on my About Us page, asking how to find the name of an owner of a property when they know the address.

First this is reminding me to put some up-to-date photos on the pages – Jack is a young man now and I am older, Carole seems to be getting younger though, so it all balances out.

I have also been reminded of my idea to create a website service to identify, map and give owner’s details of all properties for sale in France.

In most countries there are services giving multiple listings and full details of properties for sale. In the United States sites like Trulia.com and Zillow.com plus blogs like futureofrealestatemarketing.com, or using trade aggregators like Realtor.com can give a buyer some good indications of the total proeprties for sale in any area.

In France it is different. There are several ‘groups’ and trade associations of estate agents. However, most properties for sale do not have any kind of central listing and the advertising done by agents selling properties give very little information, usually never the address and often not even the general area of the property. This is because most properties are listed with many agencies and the agent would lose their (huge) commission if a buyer went direct to the owner to through another agency.

As the purchase and sale of every property, by law, must be done by a Notaire, there is a fixed charge and tax on every purchase. This is around 6 percent of the purchase price (less for a new property) – add to this the estate agents commission, usually around 6 percent again and there is a big incentive for a buyer to deal direct with the owner of a property, if they can find out first which properties are for sale and second, contact details for the owner.

There are a few websites which list properties for sale direct from owners in France – probably the largest is pap.fr/, this site also has some tools giving indications of the values of properties sold recently by department and town.

Privacy and secrecy are taken seriously in France, but there are ways of finding information, addresses and names. The most obvious one is the online telephone directory, there is a reverse look-up facility for individuals at PagesBlanches

By using other Internet tools like Google Maps the local French property rating maps .cadastre.gouv.fr and information about towns from sites like linternaute.com and FallingRain – a researcher can, with a lot of work, find out information and clues as to what properties are for sale and local values.

For a couple of years I have been wanting to make a ‘mashup’ of services and create a site which can use search tools and come up with a list of property for sale, owners and values services etc about any area. I believe I could target over 90 percent of all properties on offer – bearing in mind that many are still not offered through real-estate agencies, this would be a useful application for a mobile phone.

One day soon it will be done, it would be nice if it was me doing it, I could do with the money.

Why I live in France

December 6, 2009 by tony · 3 Comments 

I wrote recently about the ‘flip side’ of living in France. Today is Sunday and it is the end of a frustrating week, dealing with French bureaucracy as well as trying to help with the problems of Paris apartment rentals. But Sunday morning is the end of the week and I look forward to bringing Carole breakfast in bed, reading the papers and getting bread from the Boulangerie warm on the table.

The boulangerie is the real heart of a French village – we must be from Gallifrey, the planet of the Time Lords as we, Like Dr Who, have two ‘hearts’ in our village of Montblanc. The one at the top of our high street had a ‘degustation’ of their bread this morning and were giving away balloons and samples of their produce, they also sell their own wine. With over 15 different varieties of bread baked continuously every day, it is a precious resource and makes a big difference to the quality of life and a very good reason to put up with the tribulations of paperwork.

EpiMontblanais

www.EpiMontblanais.com

They have their own website which has a brief history of bread-making in Montblanc, the medieval oven is still in the center of the village (photos on their website), not in use today, but once it would have been the place where most of the village gathered each week to cook their food and exchange gossip – in a way this is still the tradition as the village boulangerie is as much a place for meeting people and hearing the news as for buying bread (or wine).

This is one reason why we have lived in France for 20 years.

French Property Newsletter

December 2, 2009 by tony · Leave a Comment 

I have been sending out newsletters about living in France for over 12 years. Another newsletter I think very highly of is one from French-Property – their newsletter is like Lidl – whenever I really need something, I look in and ‘bingo’ there it is.

French-Property newsletter

I used to know the people there but am out of touch with them so I have no association with what I recommend as a good resource.

Another source of good information is AngloInfo – I loather the title, but the content is good, this is the link to their Languedoc site and Caroline, who runs the site, is a very attractive, hard working and intelligent lady.

France the Flip Side

November 30, 2009 by tony · 1 Comment 

I am a fan of Jeremy Clarkson, his column in the Sunday Times may be the only floppy copy I read each week, apart from his motoring section which rates the Lada higher than the Audi (so do I and I love the Dacia)

He got a column ‘pulled’ recently for suggesting the tying of some chap called Mandelson to the front of a van and parading him around the UK in an attempt to cheer up the increasingly fed-up population of Britain. It seems that this chap Mandy is an unelected lord of all things and responsible for supporting rich people and generally being important. There is also a Mr Brown somewhere and another chap called Darling – it all sounds like the cast of a Blackadder farce, but it isn’t.

Basically the censored article said how fed-up lot of people are with Britain and would love to live somewhere else, France for example, but JC pointed out that there is a teensy problem with paperwork and bureaucracy in France which an Englishman would not get on with.

I am an Englishman and I do not get on well with French paperwork – actually I do not get on well with any paperwork, but I get it in spades in France and really do very badly.

But this is the point – it seems a universal truth that the ‘quality of life’ in France is recognised as being among the best in the world – millions of people leave their own countries and come to live in France. More people come to France to experience the French lifestyle and culture than to any other country in the world.

Yes France does have a horrid number of civil servants, a low income level, privacy and secrecy laws to stun a goldfish and a reputation of being cheese eating surrender monkeys – I refute all of these (well not all, there are a lot of civil servants and a lot of cheese).

On another blog I started at http://2337.com I am presenting facts and opening discussions relating to some legislation affecting short term rentals in Paris. I am doing it because for over a year I have been anticipating some public announcements which will affect anyone who is involved in renting private apartments in Paris, owners, agents and tenants, many of whom read my newsletter or write to me.

Sadly this will inevitably affect some good agencies, some owners who have invested their savings in rental properties and many years of hard work. By my publishing this now and by trying to present the true facts, the good guys could adapt their services and do well – the bad guys who have robbed and tricked people will, I hope, be made to pay.

But what I found interesting in the debates underway on that blog is the assumption that the City of Paris is shooting itself in the foot and that this is ‘bad for tourism’ and will ‘lose Paris income from tourists’.

My belief is that the people of Paris do not give a fig or a tuppenny damn for tourist income and this is the point I am trying to make in this post.

The quality of life in France is good exactly because the French national character values a human lifestyle with values expressed in conversation, food, local shops, affordable homes and which respects a philosopher above transient celebrity. Whereas many other societies establish the value of everything in money.

This explains to me why there is so much control, why I have to do everything in quadruplet and in black ink yet also why health care and education are brilliant. It is because people care about their cities, villages, homes and family life and prefer to have local shops and Parisians living in Paris than chase the quick shilling/dollar/yen/whatever.

The people of Venice are protesting in the streets about the circus their city has become, the city of London is a derelict wasteland in the evenings (I lived in the Barbican for a while).

Wisely, Paris built their Disneyland outside the city – they plan to keep it there.

Now I must get back to filling in another form to wind up a company I have never wanted, never used and which has cost me a fortune but is still there because I missed a dozen pink forms which I only returned in triplicate when everyone knows they have to be in quintuplet.

Post Script…

I am delighted to see that the censored article is back on the Times online site at Tie Mandy to a van Perhaps there is hope – Yogi Blair is not president of Europe and Oz the Rupe did not tug his whatnot for Mandiavelli

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